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	<title>Comments on: 24ways.org: A Sacred Cow?</title>
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		<title>By: Hey Raena</title>
		<link>http://stevenclark.com.au/2008/12/10/24waysorg-a-sacred-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-3851</link>
		<dc:creator>Hey Raena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I&#039;m not feeling the Christmas love at 24ways.org...&lt;/strong&gt;

I get that the &#8220;Woo, let&#8217;s all pile on 24ways.org&#8221; thing is well over a week old, but it&#8217;s only just now that I&#8217;ve sat down and thought about what it is precisely that gets up my nose about the......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I&#8217;m not feeling the Christmas love at 24ways.org&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I get that the &#8220;Woo, let&#8217;s all pile on 24ways.org&#8221; thing is well over a week old, but it&#8217;s only just now that I&#8217;ve sat down and thought about what it is precisely that gets up my nose about the&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
		<link>http://stevenclark.com.au/2008/12/10/24waysorg-a-sacred-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-3823</link>
		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Drew, you are free to believe what you may. No I don&#039;t consider this post shit stirring, in fact the opposite. I think there are valid points considering you are a perceived industry leader? Could you relate how light grey on grey text is industry best practice (regardless of the RSS feed, my ability to print, or a friend to read the content to me)? If you weren&#039;t an industry somebody your opinion and work would not be on the radar at all right now...

And I think there are valid points about the up side and down side to viral web conversations, by the way. We are marketers in this business whether we like it or not. One can&#039;t have the up side of it and not accept validity to the down side.

But, if you read the post, you&#039;ll see it says let&#039;s agree to disagree. If your business case is met and your stats support it then what does it matter WCAG gets a pummelling on contrast. No? I think that commentary is quite valid. But such is life, only 4 people come here anyway including the horse. What should it matter what I really think in a blogosphere full of noise? :)

Or, in other words, if Veerle can have her rant about innovation and 24ways.org then I can have mine... had she not ranted nor would I. If that makes sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Drew, you are free to believe what you may. No I don&#8217;t consider this post shit stirring, in fact the opposite. I think there are valid points considering you are a perceived industry leader? Could you relate how light grey on grey text is industry best practice (regardless of the RSS feed, my ability to print, or a friend to read the content to me)? If you weren&#8217;t an industry somebody your opinion and work would not be on the radar at all right now&#8230;</p>
<p>And I think there are valid points about the up side and down side to viral web conversations, by the way. We are marketers in this business whether we like it or not. One can&#8217;t have the up side of it and not accept validity to the down side.</p>
<p>But, if you read the post, you&#8217;ll see it says let&#8217;s agree to disagree. If your business case is met and your stats support it then what does it matter WCAG gets a pummelling on contrast. No? I think that commentary is quite valid. But such is life, only 4 people come here anyway including the horse. What should it matter what I really think in a blogosphere full of noise? <img src='http://stevenclark.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Or, in other words, if Veerle can have her rant about innovation and 24ways.org then I can have mine&#8230; had she not ranted nor would I. If that makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew McLellan</title>
		<link>http://stevenclark.com.au/2008/12/10/24waysorg-a-sacred-cow/comment-page-1/#comment-3822</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew McLellan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why you thought I was offended. The unfair criticism I was responding to is that we were purposefully trying to make your life hard. I&#039;m not sure why you&#039;d think we&#039;d care to do that.

Feel free to criticise. There&#039;s no sacred cow. This is a just a site I set up with some friends to give a bit back to the web dev community over advent. There&#039;s no business cases or marketeers, because there&#039;s no business. It&#039;s just a small volunteer project. We welcome feedback, and each article has comments enabled as it goes live for reader input.

However, there&#039;s a fine line between offering criticism and just shit-stirring, and I believe this post crosses that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you thought I was offended. The unfair criticism I was responding to is that we were purposefully trying to make your life hard. I&#8217;m not sure why you&#8217;d think we&#8217;d care to do that.</p>
<p>Feel free to criticise. There&#8217;s no sacred cow. This is a just a site I set up with some friends to give a bit back to the web dev community over advent. There&#8217;s no business cases or marketeers, because there&#8217;s no business. It&#8217;s just a small volunteer project. We welcome feedback, and each article has comments enabled as it goes live for reader input.</p>
<p>However, there&#8217;s a fine line between offering criticism and just shit-stirring, and I believe this post crosses that line.</p>
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